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UFC 118: Edgar vs. Penn 2

Rematches seem to be the flavor of the day in the UFC. First Machida/Rua 2, now Edgar/Penn 2, and next year Silva/Sonnen 2. One of the nice things about rematches is that we already know how the fighters match-up, because we've seen it in their first fight. That helps us analyze the rematch and figure out if either fighter can evolve enough or be motivated enough to change the outcome the second time around.

Our little game here also continues to evolve. You guys let me know that you liked the extra fight-related questions, so now we have more of those. I think adding them was a really good suggestion as you have to really know the fight game to get them right consistently. You can't just look at the fight odds or other fantasy sites to come up with a good guess at the answer. This game is all about diving deeper into the fights than other MMA Fantasy games, and I think is a step in the right direction. If you have more suggestions on how to make the game more competitive, post them in the comments.

I've been having trouble locating specials on MMA t-shirts recently, so once this current batch runs out we'll be giving out UFC figurines or replica belts as prizes which are a little easier on my pocketbook. This event winner will get a choice of one of the remaining t-shirts or one of the new prizes.

Frankie Edgar vs. BJ Penn

Lightweight Championship | In their first meeting, Frankie Edgar won a razor thin decision to take the Lightweight belt. After the fight, Penn claimed to be battling a sinus infection and believes Edgar's cornermen carrying him around the ring right after the final bell is what persuaded the judges to give him the win. Penn has refocused and will be gunning extra hard for the new Champ. If Edgar can pull off a second upset win against Penn, there should be no more doubting his claim to the belt.

1. (50pts) There were very few defining moments in the first fight, but one of them was Edgar taking Penn down in the fifth round, the first time Penn had been taken down since 2002 at lightweight. Will Edgar be able to score another takedown against Penn?

Correct Answer Yes, Edgar will get a takedown

2. (50pts) After Penn lost the third round, his corner wisely told him to take it to the ground. Penn ignored their advice and didn't attempt any takedowns at all. Penn will likely change his strategy this fight and try to take it to the ground at least a few times. How many takedowns will Penn attempt?

Correct Answer 2

3. (50pts) The UFC has started adding FightMetric stats to their results page, which is great because it means we can start asking some new types of questions. In their first match, Penn landed more strikes than Edgar but still lost. Who will land more strikes in this fight?

Correct Answer Edgar to land more strikes

4. (100pts) Who will win this fight?

Correct Answer Frankie Edgar

5. (50pts) How is this fight going to end?

Correct Answer Decision

6. (50pts) How long will this fight last?

Correct Answer 25:00

Randy Couture vs. James Toney

Heavyweight Fight | Boxing vs. MMA - James Toney is a world renown boxer who has been on a personal mission to discredit MMA fighters. He has been insulting and stalking Dana White for months until finally this fight against Randy Couture was arranged. Toney will be wearing 4oz MMA gloves, compared to his usual 10oz boxing gloves, so his strikes should be extra lethal. Couture is 47 now and if one of those strikes does connect, it could be game over. However, the octagon is Randy's home, not Toney's, and he will hold the advantage in all of other aspects which make up a MMA fight.

7. (30pts) If Toney is unable to land a big strike early, this fight is probably going to the ground. How long will it be before Toney gets taken down?

Correct Answer 00:15

8. (60pts) Who will win this fight?

Correct Answer Randy Couture

9. (30pts) How is this fight going to end?

Correct Answer Submission

10. (30pts) How long will this fight last?

Correct Answer 03:19

Demian Maia vs. Mario Miranda

Welterweight Fight | This is a classic grappler vs. striker matchup. Maia has over half of his wins by submission and Miranda has half of his wins by knockout, some in devastating fashion. It will be interesting to see which fighter will be able to implement their game plan best.

11. (30pts) Where will the majority of this fight take place?

Correct Answer On the ground

12. (60pts) Who will win this fight?

Correct Answer Demian Maia

13. (30pts) How is this fight going to end?

Correct Answer Decision

14. (30pts) How long will this fight last?

Correct Answer 15:00

Kenny Florian vs. Gray Maynard

Lightweight Fight | The two top contenders in the lightweight division will battle it out for a shot at the winner of Edgar/Penn. Florian has had two shots at the belt before and come up short both times. Maynard is undefeated and even has a win over current champ Edgar. Both fighters will be very hungry for a win here and the title shot that comes with it.

15. (30pts) Maynard has a good chin great takedowns that are nearly impossible to stop. How long before Maynard is able to take Florian down?

Correct Answer 04:07

16. (60pts) Who will win this fight?

Correct Answer Gray Maynard

17. (30pts) How is this fight going to end?

Correct Answer Decision

18. (30pts) How long will this fight last?

Correct Answer 15:00

Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis

Lightweight Fight | Diaz is a submission specialist, but rarely wants to take the fight to the ground himself. Davis is a former boxer and always has the same game plan, stand and bang. There is a good chance this will be a stand up war.

19. (30pts) Which fighter will land more strikes?

Correct Answer Diaz to land more strikes

20. (60pts) Who will win this fight?

Correct Answer Nate Diaz

21. (30pts) How is this fight going to end?

Correct Answer Submission

22. (30pts) How long will this fight last?

Correct Answer 14:02

Fight Of The Night

23. (50pts) Which will be Fight of The Night?

Correct Answer Diaz vs. Davis
COMMENTS
tcrowl18
tcrowl18 11 days ago

good luck all

chrishantman
chrishantman 11 days ago

Now I love K-Flo, but I think its time Maynard got a title shot; and he is certainly deserving.

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 11 days ago

I'm more excited for Toney v. Couture than a fat kid for cake!

Ryuuk
Ryuuk 9 days ago

Great, great questions. I realized every time I submit my picks to CageSage I'm even more eager to watch event.

I want to see Toney KO Randy (even though I really like him as a person). Guy is funny as hell, but he seriously is dangerous and I believe he doesn't take this fight lightly, training with AKA and other top fighters. Would be great if he shut up all those haters with nice right hook.

And if Penn losses this, I stop watching UFC.

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

We know Couture has a questionable chin, we saw Liddell drop him quickly in their second fight. Toney definitely has a better chance in this then the oddsmakers are giving him.

However, I think Couture will attack smartly and get in on Toney early without letting a punch connect cleanly.

If the fight goes out of the first round, either way, I will be in shock.

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Holy shit, Joe Rogan said it best, Lauzon just demolished Ruediger.

That was painful to watch... but a great way to get pumped back up for tonight after that first lackluster match.

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Miller by "Ninja Choke"!

I love seeing new submissions pulled off beautifully. Probably my favorite part of the fight game.

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 8 days ago

Any news on the strike count? Davis and Diaz are landing a lot! but I need Davis in the lead...

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 8 days ago

Damn dude... Davis looks fucked up!

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Pretty sure Diaz landed more strikes, I'll confirm against the official FightMetrics later, but I'm giving that question to Diaz for now.

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 8 days ago

I hate you...

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

I hate that you suck so bad. I really wish you were better, I do.

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

How's the going away party by the way? You commenting from your EVO?

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 8 days ago

I am! and its amazing... such a great phone! party is okay, would rather be at my place with your projector like we originally planned... next time!

wanjabaraba
wanjabaraba 8 days ago

l had Diaz by decision, almost happened. What happened to me thinking Davis can land more strikes when Diaz has the reach advantage?.... Let's go Florian!

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 8 days ago

I'm with you... I had Davis by decision too. pulling a goose egg at the moment, go me!

wanjabaraba
wanjabaraba 8 days ago

l knew this was going to happen because of the Sherk fight, but l hate Maynard so l couldn't bet on him

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Haha, wanja. I feel you, but I bet Maynard and took the win. It'm not a big fan either, but he's got that tough to beat wrestler style.

Unfortunately, he's probably going to be champion some day and we'll have to live through his boring takedown to decision matches that last 25 minutes.

spilledbagofice
spilledbagofice 8 days ago

I wanna win again. haha. KenFlo dropped the ball, man.

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

I'm still in the lead going into Couture/Toney, but it's been cut to just 1 point! Getting heated.

wanjabaraba
wanjabaraba 8 days ago

From 14th to 10th to 5th, time to take over... Wouldn't be the first time l did it this way

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

By the way, it's been confirmed that Diaz outstruck Davis 2 to 1 in their fight earlier.

http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC118/results

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 8 days ago

I have a goose egg for two fights so far... I'm going to let the monkey make my picks next time!

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 8 days ago

You have to admit Randy looks good for 47...

wanjabaraba
wanjabaraba 8 days ago

l hoped Randy would TKO Toney

MamaLikey
MamaLikey 8 days ago

well at least I picked Couture by submission!

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Damnit. Penn just cost me two big parlays. Picked everything else tonight almost perfectly, then just blew the main event.

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Congrats to either tcrowl18 or CerealRazor, one of you guys is going to win tonight. It will all come down to the Fight of the Night, but I think you both got that wrong so it will be trcrowl18 holding on to his lead.

I'll make it official once the press conference happens.

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Props to Edgar for silencing his critics and beating one of the best fighters in the world 50-45 in their rematch. No one can doubt his claim to the belt at this point.

Unfortunately, I believe he is going to lose to Maynard again and give him the belt which will make the Lightweight division one of the most uninteresting ones in the sport with an unlikable champion that is tough to beat.

Brings back memories of the Heavyweight division with Tim Sylvia as champion until Couture kicked his ass and opened that division back up.

spilledbagofice
spilledbagofice 8 days ago

I picked Diaz/Davis for fight of the night. Seems like it should be. JLau was amazing but too one sided to be FotN.

spilledbagofice
spilledbagofice 8 days ago

yup. Davis -Diaz Fight of the night. Still not enough to win but I'll take the extra 50 points. haha.

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Yes, it's official, Diaz vs. Davis was FoTN. Surprisingly only two of you picked that fight.

tcrowl18 holds on to his lead and is tonight's winner.

spilledbagofice
spilledbagofice 8 days ago

That is surprising! Two tough scrappers who don't quit, seemed obvious to me. I'm pissed I picked Randy via sub and then changed my mind at the last minute.

Congrats tcowl!

Oh Chief, Did anyone pick Toney?

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

Yep, two people picked Toney to win.

tcrowl18
tcrowl18 8 days ago

nice. first ppv win

wanjabaraba
wanjabaraba 8 days ago

I never saw Tim Sylvia's title rain like that. He won both titles with a KO and had some great KOs in between... His fights with Monson and the third Arlovski fight sucked but he is 100 time more interesting then Maynard

wanjabaraba
wanjabaraba 8 days ago

Haha, l remember watching Edgar against Tyson Griffin, which was an awesome fight but l though Griffin won. And Rogan said "They will be the champions some day!", and l though "Yeah, wright"... Of course Edger did became much better

ChiefOfStaph
ChiefOfStaph 8 days ago

I agree with you that Tim's fights were more exciting than Marnard's, but that wasn't my point. My comment was about an unlikable champion that is tough to beat. Tim had all the tools: one of the first 'big' heavyweights, long reach, KO power, and a style that neutralized most opponents. However, I never liked him and I always got the impression he was pretty reviled by the MMA community in general.

It sucks when you have someone like that as champion and you're stuck with them because they are also good and keep winning. I think Maynard will have a run as champion like that, where you are almost always rooting for him to lose.

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1 tcrowl18 tcrowl18 669pts
2 CerealRazor CerealRazor 659pts
3 wanjabaraba wanjabaraba 596pts
4 emanrf00 emanrf00 552pts
5 ChiefOfStaph ChiefOfStaph 526pts
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